Sams Lucky 9 Lays Review
Sams Lucky 9 Lays is a low odds Â laying service with Sam being the owners name and Â the number 9 refers to the maximum lay odds.The service costs Â£9.99 weekly and would appear to supply 1-2 selections daily.
The service uses the Betfair SP (BSP) and it would be possible to set up using a bot.
The service is promoted and Â maintained by Betfan by their Bet Management Service. When you have signed up you will receive login details for the website.
Every morning an email is supplied which states the selections for the day.
The previous results are available on the website.
One point is that no deductions are made for either Betfair deductions or for the service.
I will record the selections for a 1pt stake with 5% deduction for 45 days.
Day 1 Sams Lucky 9 Lays -13th January
Southwell 13:00 Sharp Shoes BSP 4.50 Lost
Profit Â 0.95 pts Â Total = +0.95 pts
Day 2 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 14th January
Day 3 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 15th January
Lingfield 14:00 Â Franco Is My Name Â BSP 2.71 Lost
Profit Â 0.95 pts Â Total = +1.90 pts
Day 4 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 16th January
Day 5 Â Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 17th January
Fakenham 15:30 Ray Mond Â BSP 6.58 Won
Loss 5.58 pts Total = -3.68 pts
Day 6 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 18th January
Southwell 14:00 Â Bari Bay Â BSP 5.20 Â Lost
Folkstone Â 15:40 Portrait Royal 3.60 Â Lost
Profit Â 1.90 pts Â Total = – 1.78 pts
Day 7 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 19th January
Lingfield 15:40 Â Dare It and Smile Â BSP 8.11 Â Lost
Profit Â 0.95 pts Â Total = – 0.83 pts
Day 8 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 20th January
Lingfield 12:50 Â New Den Â BSP 4.43 Â Lost
Wolverhampton Â 16:20 Kenswick 3.80 Â Lost
Profit Â 1.90 pts Â Total = + 1.07 pts
Day 9 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 21st Â January
Lingfield 15:05 Â Lord Lansing Â BSP 4.48 Â Lost
Profit Â 0.95 pts Â Total = + 2.02 pts
So far we have had nine selections with eight losing for a strike rate of 88.89% with average odds of 4.82.
Day 10 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 22nd January
Day 11 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 23rd January
Kempton 14:10 Â Broughtons Day BSP 5.00 Â Lost
Profit Â 0.95 pts Â Total = +2.97pts
Day 12 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 24th January
Wetherby 15:40 Â La Pantera Rosa BSP 5.22 Â Lost
Profit Â 0.95 pts Â Total = +3.92pts
Day 13 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 25th January
I always find a selection like this impossible to lay.What can beat it, favourite 1.67 would have if it had not fell, but the next in the betting was 10.50 and then 19.0. If you believe that the favourite should win then back it not lay the clear second favourite in a race like this. Four meetings and this is the best lay of the day, in my opinion a very poor selection.
Leicester 13:40 Â Extremely So BSP 4.80 Â Won
Profit Â -3.80 pts Â Total = +0.12 pts
Day 14 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 26th January
Today we had three selections resulting in one loss and two wins for a small loss. As with yesterday a lay was chosen in a race where the favourite was odds on and a very clear second favourite was laid.
Lingfield 15:25 Â Peace Corps Â BSP 3.56 Won
Kempton 16:35 Â Sheila’s Star BSP 3.80Â Â Lost
KemptonÂ Â 19:05 Stirling Bridge BSP 2.80Â Â Lost
Profit Â -0.66 pts Â Total = -0.54 pts
Day 15 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 27th January
One winning selection today to bring us back into profit.
Southwell 15:45 Â Mediterranean Sea Â BSP 4.81 Lost
Profit Â +0.95 pts Â Total = +0.41 pts
Day 16 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 28th January
One selection today but unusually it had a maximum lay of 4.5 and not 9.0, so it is not a bet as the BSP was 5.45. I contacted Betfan as they have recorded this selection as a win because it was below 9.0, despite the email?
Day 17 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 29th January
One losing selection today.
Cheltenham 15:40 Grand Crus Â BSP 3.05 Â Won
Profit Â -2.05 pts Â Total = Â -1.64 pts
Day 18 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 30th January
One winning selection today and because of non-runners was a short price favourite.
Kempton Â 15:15 Super Frank Â BSP 2.01 Â Lost
Profit Â +0.95 pts Â Total = Â -0.69 pts
Day 19 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 31st January
One losing selection.
Wolverhampton Â 15:15 Memorabilia Â BSP 2.36 Â Won
Profit Â -1.36 pts Â Total = Â -2.05 pts
Day 20 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 1st February
One losing selection and two other selections >9.0.
Folkstone Â 16:10 The Bishops Baby Â BSP 4.90 Â Won
Profit Â -3.90 pts Â Total = Â -5.95 pts
Day 21 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 2nd February
Three selections today with two winning bets and one losing bet for another losing day.
Newcastle Â 13:50 Mighty Magnus Â BSP 3.95 Â Lost
Lingfield 15:10 Ocean Countess Â BSP 2.44 Â Lost
Lingfield Â 15:40 Beaubrav Â BSP 5.78 Â Won
Profit Â -2.88 pts Â Total = Â -8.83 pts
Day 22 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 3rd February
One selection today but had a BSP of 11.74.
Profit Â 0 pts Â Total = Â -8.83 pts
Day 23 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 4th February
Two selections today , one had a BSP of 18.50 and one winning bet.
Wolverhampton 20:00 Â Baharat Â BSP 1.63 Â Lost
Profit Â +0.95 pts Â Total = Â -7.88 pts
Day 24 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 5th February
One selection today Â and one winning bet. I am recording this as a lay as it was possible to lay on other exchanges when Betfair crashed.
Lingfield 14:20 Â Tagansky Â BSP 3.63 Â Lost
Profit Â +0.95 pts Â Total = Â -6.93 pts
Day 25 Â Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 6th February
No selection today.
So after 25 days we have had 25 selections with 18 winning and 7 losing for a strike rate of 72% and a loss of -6.93 pts.
The next 20 days will require some winning selections to get out of the red.
Day 26 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 7th February
One selection today Â and one winning bet.
Lingfield 14:35 Â Cresswell Crusader Â BSP 2.18 Â Lost
Profit Â +0.95 pts Â Total = Â -5.98 pts
Day 27 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 8th February
Three meetings today but no selections.
Day 28 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 9th February
Four selections today to produce one losing bet, two winning bets and one selection with a BSP over 9.0. This gave a small profit for the day. I looked through the results on the Betfan website back to the start. It is very uncommon to have four selections and it would appear that as a review on another site is coming to the end, more selections are being made to make the result look better. I have been laying Horses since 2004 and normally laying services make their selections using a method. Looking through the results I could do better using a pin, you cannot lay horses just because it has a low price . To make a profit you have to have some dangers to your selection and most of the time I cannot understand why/how his selections are being made. It would be a better service if reasoning for the selection were given. We have seventeen more days before the end of the review and unless the selections improve it cannot be recommended.
Ludlow 13:45 Â Kells Belle Â BSP 2.28 Â Won
Carlisle 15:10 Indian Groom Â BSP 8.00 Â Lost
Carlisle 16:20 Â Do it for Dalkey Â BSP 4.66 Â Lost
Profit Â +0.62 pts Â Total = Â -5.36 pts
Day 29 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 10th February
Two selections today for Â one winning bet and one losing bet. The first selection was an odds on shot with very little opposition and won easily. Why not just make one selection?
Huntingdon 15:10 Â A Media Luz Â BSP 1.62 Â Won
Kempton 19:40 Â Black Baccara Â BSP 4.00 Â Lost
Profit Â +0.33 pts Â Total = Â -5.03 pts
Day 30 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 11th February
Three selections today resulting in one losing bet, one bet over 9.0(won at 10.36, so a lucky escape) and one non runner for another losing day.
Musselburgh 15:35 Â Little Hercules Â BSP 5.34 Â Won
Profit Â -4.34 pts Â Total = Â -9.37 pts
Day 31 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 12th February
One selection today and it won at 4.31 for another losing day.
Warwick 15:45 Â Silver Kate Â BSP 4.31 Â Won
Profit Â -4.31 pts Â Total = Â -12.68 pts
Day 32 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 13th February
One selection today with an odds on shot that won by half the track for another losing day. So far over 31 days we have had 34 selections with 12 winning for a strike rate of 64.71%. Out of the last eight selections five have won there races, with only 13 days until the end of the review it will require a major turnaround to break even and that is without any service charges.
Exeter 14:40 Spirit Son Â BSP 1.58 Â Won
Profit Â -0.58 pts Â Total = Â -13.26 pts
Day 33 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 14th February
Three selections today with one winner, one loser and one non runner.
Plumpton 15:30 Prince Du Seuil Â BSP 3.51 Â Won
Plumpton 16:00 Keki Buku Â BSP 1.66 Â Lost
Profit Â -1.56 pts Â Total = Â -14.82 pts
Day 34 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 15th February
Eight selections today with three over the BSP limit of 9.0 and five losers for a profit on the day.
Newcastle 14:40 Niki Royal Â BSP 5.21 Â Lost
Southwell 14:50 Elusive Warrior Â BSP 7.60 Â Lost
Folkstone 15:00 Mrs Fawlty Â BSP 7.20 Â Lost
Newcastle 15:10 Baltic Pathfinder Â BSP 5.01 Â Lost
Newcastle 16:10 Mister Marker Â BSP 4.40 Â Lost
Profit Â +4.75 pts Â Total = Â -10.07 pts
Day 35 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 16th February
Eleven selections today with two selections over the BSP limit of 9.0 and nine losers for a profit on the day.
Lingfield 14:00 Sofias Number One Â BSP 5.37 Â Lost
Musselburgh 14:20 Soprano Â BSP 8.60 Â Lost
Leicester 14:40 Lordbridge Â BSP 6.20 Â Lost
Musselburgh 15:20 Kai Broon Â BSP 6.04 Â Lost
Lingfield 15:30 Cuthbert BSP 5.98 Â Lost
Musselburgh 15:50 Pokfulham Â BSP 4.04 Â Lost
Lingfield 16:30 Round Turn Â BSP 2.65 Â Lost
Kempton 17:20 Escard0 Â BSP 7.76 Â Lost
Kempton 19:40 Woolfall Soverign BSP 7.42 Â Lost
Profit Â +8.55 pts Â Total = Â +8.55 pts
Day 36 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 17th February
Thirteen selections today with 1 non runner, 3 over odds range, 1 winner and 8 losers.
Profit = +3 68 pts
Day 37 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 18th February
Eleven selections today with 1 non runner, 6 over the odds range, 1 winner and 3 losers.
Profit = -4 03 pts
Day 38 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 19th February
Eight selections today 1 out of range and 7 losers.
Profit = +6.65 Â pts
Day 39 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 20th February
Eight selections today with 1 over the odds and 7 losers.
Profit = +6.65 pts
Day 40 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 21st February
Thirteen selections today with 2 over the odds, 3 winners and 8 losers.
Profit = -2 93 pts
Day 41 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 22nd February
Nine selections today with 1 non runner, 2 over the odds and 6 losers.
Profit = +5.70 pts
Day 42 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 23rd February
Six selections today with 1 winner and 5 losers.
Profit = +1.25 pts
Day 43 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 24th February
Seven selections today with 3 over the odds, 2 winners and 2 losers.
Profit = -6.46 pts
Day 44 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 25th February
Thirteen selections today with 4 over the odds, 4 winners and 5 losers. This was the worst set of results since the start and could have been worse as one of the over the odds horses won at 15.50
Profit = -15.14 pts
Day 45 Sams Lucky 9 Lays – 26th February
One selections today with i losing selection.
Profit = +0.95 pts
On the 15th February after receiving selections from the service there was a radical change in the number of selections. 15th 8 selections, 16th 11 selections, 17th 13 selections and 18th 13 selections. I contacted Betfan who send the emails out to the members and asked if sam was still sending the selections:-
I agree that this seems odd and thought the same myself when I sent them out to be honest but it is 100% still Sam sending me the tips. Then later received this from Sam Messenger:-
The selection process remains the same.
Before i was narrowing down to try to find the best lay of the day,but was finding we were missing out on many succesful lays.
Any further questions feel free to ask.
It is my belief that any service that radically changes the conditions should inform all the paying customers why.
Sam’s Lucky 9 Lays is a laying service that supplies 1-2 selections a day. It is available at a cost of Â£9.99/week. On signing for the service you are supplied by Betfan with login details to their website that allows you to see the selections as well as previous results. One small point is that the results do not deduct commission but are at BSP.
Every morning at about 09:00 an email with the selections is received. Betfan send out the selections and answer very promptly any questions that you may have. All my questions were answered within one hour.
The selections suggest a maximum lay price of 9.0.
Including all the results up to the 26th February, over a period of 45 days.
114 selections at an average odds of 5.26.
89 winning selections at an average odds of 5.44.
25 losing selections at an average odds of 4.59.
Starting with a bank of 100points it finished with a loss of Â -5.20 points.
A strike rate of 78.07% was achieved.
The service now appears to have returned to the old style of 2-3 selections a day.
The service had its worst period between 29th January- 14th February with 19 selections producing 10 losing selections. It was at this point that the service changed and in my opinion the selector started to “chase” in an attempt to improve the results. This worked until 25th February when four horses won and removed some of the previous gains(it could have been worse as one selection, out of odds range, won at 15.50)
In the short period that the review took place the selections did not appear to form any pattern. It did not select from any particular type of race but did appear to choose horses in the first three in the betting and did at times find some short price winning selections ( some part of this was due to non runners)
With the selections that are being made it requires an 80% strike rate to make a profit.
The results are not good enough to make a profit, the selection process (if there is one) is not working.
With the change Â in the number of selections that are being given and with the fact that this change happened without informing the subscribers I cannot recommend the service.